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[[ZG] Harly]

Hello ZG-guys,

it's about the very controversial Blood....
There are several points that bother me a lot about him.
1) at god game vote. he goes straight into spec and always gets upset about the RPG.
2) on maps with rpg he insults people who play it. and then vote through everything that goes. Exaggerates full. And new players don't know what's going on. If one uses the RPG he also goes spec and comes back in when the player is dead. That's not the point of the spec.
3. He doesn't say hello and otherwise behaves very unsympathetically.
4. he often votes his maps where he alienates weaker players.
5. You heard that from Bubs and him. This is exactly what his disgusting character shows.
6. Yesterday I was joint
he played with Nemesis. Of course on one of his favorite maps (lostarena).
The score was again (12/0) for blood. I'm joint and of course I write "HI" for the sake of decency. No reaction from him. Then me and Nemesis text each other and he plays so gross and kills Nemesis in one tour. Then I froze him. He got really excited and threatened and finally insulted. E.g. I would have a small tail .

Consequently, I speak out for a permanent ban. It's toxic and won't change!"

Best regards
Harly

[MakonneN]

I agree ...
he is a toxic and strange person
I was wondering what we should do
what harly mentioned is only part of his strange behavior ...
you can give him a final warning ... but someone needs to talk to him
I tried, but I boiled ... I can't talk to him ... it's just impossible haha

[[ZG] Harly]

blo0d jah Harly play little dick
27 Oct 2022 - 19:11 [ZG] Harly oO
27 Oct 2022 - 19:11 Nemesis harly he always play here
27 Oct 2022 - 19:11 blo0d :)
27 Oct 2022 - 19:11 blo0d because he didnt play this game
27 Oct 2022 - 19:10 blo0d but he is freezed me
27 Oct 2022 - 19:10 Nemesis
27 Oct 2022 - 19:10 blo0d i dont panic
27 Oct 2022 - 19:10 [ZG] Harly amdin
27 Oct 2022 - 19:10 Nemesis put you said to me don't panic right ?
27 Oct 2022 - 19:10 blo0d because he dont loose
27 Oct 2022 - 19:10 [ZG] Harly oO
27 Oct 2022 - 19:10 blo0d :)
27 Oct 2022 - 19:10 blo0d i dont play Harlynoob
27 Oct 2022 - 19:10 Nemesis blood come pack sames Panic
27 Oct 2022 - 19:10 [ZG] Harly ty Nemesis
27 Oct 2022 - 19:09 Nemesis yes he is
27 Oct 2022 - 19:09 blo0d
27 Oct 2022 - 19:09 blo0d Bubbles: this is fair?
27 Oct 2022 - 19:09 [ZG] Harly because you are rude
27 Oct 2022 - 19:09 blo0d joined SPECTATE
27 Oct 2022 - 19:08 blo0d why?
27 Oct 2022 - 19:08 [ZG] Harly ^^
27 Oct 2022 - 19:08 [ZG] Harly upsd
27 Oct 2022 - 19:07 [ZG] Harly ups
27 Oct 2022 - 19:05 Nemesis Hi
27 Oct 2022 - 19:05 [ZG] Harly hi

[[ZG] Harly]

I agree ...
he is a toxic and strange person
I was wondering what we should do
what harly mentioned is only part of his strange behavior ...
you can give him a final warning ... but someone needs to talk to him
I tried, but I boiled ... I can't talk to him ... it's just impossible haha

I had exactly the same MAK . The guy is indirectly provocative when you talk to him.

[Satan Claus]

What happened yesterday didn`t go unnoticed,I also have the same experience.
I don`t like his playing style, it`s weirdly defensive and he only likes to play if all odds are in his favor.
Yesterday we played Hide and Seek with him, which was kind of fun in the start, just that he hide out in an impossible place.(rooftop inside texture). No surprise.
The problem is, we don`t have many rules, so what legitimate reason do we have for a ban?
I agree that he was offensive yesterday, and maybe its the best reason we got so far. Another side to think about is that he often hangs around in the server during the afternoon, and he might attract more players than he repells. He hasnt been here today, and the server has been empty most late afternoon.

[blo0d]

Dear members,

Well, now I'll write a few lines too.

*Yes, I'm not thanking you, Harly, because you're a peasant But anyway, if you pay attention a little more than your dick, you'll notice that I'm thanking someone else. It might not be a coincidence.
*Yes, I don't like it when someone keeps using RPGs or mines, but as I've seen, a lot of people quit the server from you, because I think there's something wrong with you, but obviously I'm not wasting my time on you.
*I don't usually have problems with RPGs with new players, but those who have been pushing it for a long time, and all I do is go out to SPEC and wait. But I think I have the right to do that, why shouldn't I? Many prefer to quit, do you think that's better? I think not.
*Speaking of which, I don't think it's fair that you, the new players, often use the RPG. I don't think they will have much desire to stay on the server...
*I didn't say hello to you on the map you mentioned (lostarena), because you weren't used to it either. You obviously abused your admin rights. Or everyone, but I don't think it's fair. You obviously don't like to lose, you'll have to learn that. Of course, you forgot to mention that you died a couple of times and then froze, obviously because that's how you handle the situation.
*I often vote for maps, it's true, but I do this not only for myself, but also because they are much more popular. I should add that I often, very often, ask other people what their favorite map is, and we go to those. (I note in parentheses, in 99% of cases they like the map I chose)
*Yes, lostarena is one of my favorite maps, but there are also many others, e.g. (biohazard, junkcity, lockdown, matar, 1mag, backdoor, balcony, closecontact, portalwars, postoffice, tigric, collapse, caverns, arena, 7hours, lostvillage, unraveling and many more.I often switch because I know that many people do not like to play with so many people and with that map, so I try to please others as well.

*If it's better for you, do what you think is right, ban it permanently, but you will still feel like a minority because your dick is small.

I'm normal with people who are with me, not openly with you! I like the server, it's very well done, thanks Bubbles, it looks like you worked a lot on it. Most of the people here are good players, and that's why I like to practice with them, on maps that are an even fight, because everyone already knows it well, and its layout, options, and strategy are perfect, and it has a lot of possibilities.

In short, if you end up getting banned, at least I'll have more time for other things You know, you're doing me a favor, so do what you see fit.

*Am I not changing? I think anyone who knows me knows what I'm like

[Satan Claus]

Incident 21:00 tonight 30.10.22: I entered the server and found Blo0d in Postal and Den4ik17 with a total death of around 20-0. I said to Blo0d that den4ik17 is a new player, and he seemed surprised by that. Then Den4ik17 asked not to be treated like a child. Blo0d then went in afk to continue the conversation. He said its difficult to comply… All I asked from Blo0d was to take it easy. I said to him that the problem is that people often RQ when he does that. Den4ik17 then said its just fine, and that he want to learn from experienced players. Then we continued the game, Blo0d entered Sensei and was then killed after 4-5 more kills. Later den4ik17 admitted that maybe it wasn’t so fun after all to be killed 20 consecutive times. Maybe Den4ik17 isnt a new player per se, but he is fairly new in the server with 38 hours in ZG so far.

[blo0d]

I often ask who the new player is, but Bubbles, you can look at the log history. Bubble said, since then I always ask.

In the case of Den4ik's game, I did not know that after 37 hours spent on the server, he is still considered a new player. After all, it looks good, so I think it's relative, because compared to those who have been playing here for years, I'm also a new player. But the old good players also quit if the game is not going well, right?

A few months ago, after an 8-year hiatus, I was also a new player and you killed me many times, and I still didn't give up. I also confess that I will be good if I learn from good people.
I'll give you a good example. When I was new on your servers, Kamus used to kill me many times and I loved playing him because I learned how to play against him.

What is the good solution then? There are people who laugh, change accounts on steam, and are professional players, but at the same time they look new on the server, should I leave it alone?

Or, for example, in the case of Den4ik, should I not shoot him? This means that he won't be a good player, I'll shoot myself, and I won't enjoy the game either... Surely this is the right solution?

I think someone becomes a good player if he learns from the pros and doesn't give up. There are few new players in this game, rather good players play.

[Satan Claus]

Thanks for your reply Blo0d, its important to have both sides.

First of all, with a little retrospect maybe we were a little bit too harsh on you Blo0d. it`s important to remember that ZG isnt a competive server, its a public server for fun. Its not so important if the player is experienced or not really, the point is just to make the game a pleasant experience for all players in the game. Now den4ik17 is an experienced player, just fairy new to ZG. And it seemed he was fine with what was happening. However its not desireable when players RQ because they lost 20+ to 0. Maybe they should handle that better, but may dont and feel really bad. It would be much better if you could adjust to the the level of the player you are playing against, in particular in 1v1 games. At least hold back a little when you pass 10-0. Now I also dragged Den4ik17 into this mess, so maybe he would like to say some words about tonght?

[Den4ik17]

Thank you for mentioning me and I really have something to say. Blood you are a very strong and experienced player, it is strongly felt like today, for example, when there was no one else but us. Yes, I could not kill you even once, dying 24 times in a row. Most of the players in my place would probably be very upset, and I will not hide, I was a little sad too. But I just have different views and attitude to everything that happens. I see your experience as a great example and a source of knowledge and experience for me. I really like to overcome difficulties, because they make us stronger.

What is also important is that everyone not only has their own style of play, but also a unique experience. Someone can after a short time play no worse than strong players, these are the personal qualities of each. Here, blood, I share your opinion that you can become a good player by playing with stronger ones, learn from them, analyze, take into account the pros and cons. Unfortunately, this doesn't work for all people. Everyone has their own approach, desires, tactics. Of course, this does not mean that you need to stop shooting or break your arm as you said earlier. That's why I advised you to just be more sociable, communication can often help, explain to those who do not understand, or are afraid that it is normal to be weaker than someone else and that you do not want to humiliate them with this.

I can't fully draw conclusions because I hardly know what kind of person you are. Just what i read and listened from the others. However, I liked you and I think I can become even stronger thanks to players like you, because here on Zeitgeist everyone is very strong and interesting! You rightly said that you will not enjoy the game if you force yourself to give in, but also other players who cannot cope with you. So we need to look for a solution together, let's think and decide how to do it right, if there really is such a problem with You and other players. Since I do not consider this a problem for myself, I consider this a goal - a task.

And in competitions at matches, if the players are weak and upset, then let them find players according to their level, although this is difficult, because there are not so many opportunities.

The last thing I would like to say. Zeitgeist is a server where people of all skill levels gather. And do not forget that in the first place everything was created for fun, relaxation and spending time together. I hope to play with you again, I have already learned a lot from the players on the server, but the main thing is that I play just for fun and pleasure. That is, my main goal is not to improve my skills and abilities - these are secondary tasks that will be completed during the game. And each player has their own goals and desires for what they want to get out of the game. I also want other players to have fun with me, it makes my heart even better. Oh, and Satan Claus, thanks for your support and understanding, I hope we can resolve this issue. Blood, thank you too for an interesting experience. I'm really okay with this for myself, but other players really can leave because of that.

I will wait for your answer.

Best regards, Den4ik17