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regarding Exp and why I kicked him. So the server was well attended and the guy figured it out. We had new players who are connected together. Then the weirdo came along. I hate it when someone doesn't write anything. Everyone has their days. But at least a hello or something. The joint just pops all over the place. The players start to disconnect and he does not respond at all. Time to write a NS if it is dismissed or something else. There are more players who like it, e.g. the Native, but the difference to this dog "exp" is that the native often comes and likes the server. So this is a regular. The type is very rare here that ZG is not really interested and is therefore not an asset but rather a problem. Then I kicked and not banned! Then he came back straight away and started discussing. From you Boria I don't think it's good to publicly condemn my decision without knowing my reasoning. Write to me next time privately or comment on it in the forum. It doesn't look good when ZG people work against each other there.

Thank you very much and I hope you can understand.

Greetings
Harly

After thinking about this and discussed with Harly, I understand now everything.

Me, as a lot of people, see Zeitgeist as a friendly community where anyone can play, including good and toxic players.
I defended a lot of people, including exp, because, for me, they did nothing bad so they didnt deserve a punishment.

But Zeitgeist is supposed to have nice people exclusivly. You basically want to fish Cod in a ocean and not Fishes (as I thought).
Sorry about the inconvenient, I wont do that again.

Note: The expression of fishes and ocean is saying that you only want cod instead of non-cod fishes and junk and I who wanted fish instead of junk

Hey can you place EXP's steam account name there?
Was it a repeated occurrence?

The player ignored the warning and private messages?

Thanks

As a supplement.
start from below: D

01 Nov 2021 - 15:53 Ruble lets bet if Negative take kd lower then 2 does he leave
01 Nov 2021 - 15:53 [ZG] Timmy Taube hehe
01 Nov 2021 - 15:53 Dreadlord 2
01 Nov 2021 - 15:52 [ZG] Timmy Taube hoho
01 Nov 2021 - 15:52 Bboby wtf
01 Nov 2021 - 15:52 Baby Driver rpg
01 Nov 2021 - 15:52 Bboby
01 Nov 2021 - 15:52 Baby Driver oo
01 Nov 2021 - 15:51 Baby Driver :)
01 Nov 2021 - 15:51 Ruble hihi
01 Nov 2021 - 15:51 Ruble hey Negative no say hello plz ban him
01 Nov 2021 - 15:51 John Connor
01 Nov 2021 - 15:51 Ruble oo
01 Nov 2021 - 15:51 Ruble ohno
01 Nov 2021 - 15:51 Ruble oo
01 Nov 2021 - 15:51 Ruble oo
01 Nov 2021 - 15:51 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat So many times I wanted to leave bc of Harly, but I like him and I know he also deserves someone to play
01 Nov 2021 - 15:51 Ruble oo
01 Nov 2021 - 15:50 John Connor sry
01 Nov 2021 - 15:50 [ZG] Timmy Taube it is no bad behaviour -actually im the wrong person to ask because i dont know the full circumstances^^
01 Nov 2021 - 15:50 Ruble noo
01 Nov 2021 - 15:50 Baby Driver is he rude or something ?
01 Nov 2021 - 15:50 Bboby what
01 Nov 2021 - 15:50 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat exp, you, Harly, Entys, abra...
01 Nov 2021 - 15:50 John Connor aa u
01 Nov 2021 - 15:50 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat every good players does that..
01 Nov 2021 - 15:50 Baby Driver i really dont see anything like bad behaviur
01 Nov 2021 - 15:50 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat
01 Nov 2021 - 15:50 Baby Driver ok timmy but
01 Nov 2021 - 15:49 [ZG] Timmy Taube i have explained it wrong-it was no ban , he was just kicked with my knowledge because he emptied the server
01 Nov 2021 - 15:49 Baby Driver rpg
01 Nov 2021 - 15:49 Bboby wtf
01 Nov 2021 - 15:49 Ruble woo
01 Nov 2021 - 15:49 Dreadlord is playing MUSIC
01 Nov 2021 - 15:49 Bboby wtf
01 Nov 2021 - 15:49 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat what I know is I dont want unjustified bans
01 Nov 2021 - 15:49 Baby Driver noo
01 Nov 2021 - 15:49 Dreadlord woo
01 Nov 2021 - 15:49 Bboby haha
01 Nov 2021 - 15:49 Ruble win
01 Nov 2021 - 15:49 John Connor ns
01 Nov 2021 - 15:49 Ruble ok try to get ban
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 Bboby haha
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 Baby Driver
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 Ruble aa
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 [ZG] Timmy Taube judith
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 [ZG] Timmy Taube rebel
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 Ruble haha 2
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 John Connor aua
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat haha
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 Baby Driver .(
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 Baby Driver ban reason
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat wellno
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 Dreadlord no
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 Ruble no2
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 Baby Driver haha
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 Dreadlord no
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 Baby Driver hahha
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 Dreadlord no
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 Bboby NEIN!
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 Bboby NEIN!
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 Baby Driver win
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 [ZG] Timmy Taube hihi
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 Dreadlord noo
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 Baby Driver win
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 Dreadlord
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 [ZG] Timmy Taube win
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 [ZG] Harly
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 [ZG] Timmy Taube
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 Bboby
01 Nov 2021 - 15:48 John Connor aa
01 Nov 2021 - 15:47 [ZG] Timmy Taube hehe
01 Nov 2021 - 15:47 Bboby woo
01 Nov 2021 - 15:47 Dreadlord woo
01 Nov 2021 - 15:47 Bboby wtf
01 Nov 2021 - 15:47 [ZG] Timmy Taube sigh
01 Nov 2021 - 15:47 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat well no
01 Nov 2021 - 15:47 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat well no
01 Nov 2021 - 15:47 Bboby ty2
01 Nov 2021 - 15:47 Ruble wow
01 Nov 2021 - 15:47 [ZG] Timmy Taube hihi
01 Nov 2021 - 15:47 Baby Driver haha hha
01 Nov 2021 - 15:47 Baby Driver haha hha
01 Nov 2021 - 15:47 Baby Driver hehe
01 Nov 2021 - 15:47 John Connor aa
01 Nov 2021 - 15:46 Dreadlord is playing MUSIC
01 Nov 2021 - 15:46 Ruble aa a
01 Nov 2021 - 15:46 Baby Driver boria did u understand anything
01 Nov 2021 - 15:46 Bboby there
01 Nov 2021 - 15:46 Baby Driver ty
01 Nov 2021 - 15:46 Bboby ycb
01 Nov 2021 - 15:45 Ruble hihi
01 Nov 2021 - 15:45 Ruble there2
01 Nov 2021 - 15:45 Bboby ah
01 Nov 2021 - 15:45 Ruble there1
01 Nov 2021 - 15:45 exp I do not know what else to say, this is not correct and stupid, you can just ask to go out me to start at least
01 Nov 2021 - 15:45 Bboby haha ha
01 Nov 2021 - 15:45 Baby Driver hehe
01 Nov 2021 - 15:45 [ZG] Timmy Taube hihi
01 Nov 2021 - 15:45 Dreadlord timmy
01 Nov 2021 - 15:45 Dreadlord woo
01 Nov 2021 - 15:45 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat ty Harly
01 Nov 2021 - 15:45 Baby Driver hs
01 Nov 2021 - 15:45 [ZG] Harly express themselves. End of the discussion
01 Nov 2021 - 15:45 Ruble me leave some times ))
01 Nov 2021 - 15:45 [ZG] Timmy Taube ye i know what you mean ruble
01 Nov 2021 - 15:44 [ZG] Harly Boria, I ask you not to close this here in the chat .... I will make a forum post in this regard because everyone can express
01 Nov 2021 - 15:44 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat Ruble
01 Nov 2021 - 15:44 Dreadlord join
01 Nov 2021 - 15:44 exp dont say hello on server with 1000 sounds cacophony... ban
01 Nov 2021 - 15:44 Ruble hihi
01 Nov 2021 - 15:44 Dreadlord tea
01 Nov 2021 - 15:44 Ruble ok Timmy always say hello but when he kill all ppl leave too
01 Nov 2021 - 15:44 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat baby dont tease haha
01 Nov 2021 - 15:44 Baby Driver haha
01 Nov 2021 - 15:44 exp ye, good reason
01 Nov 2021 - 15:44 Dreadlord ty2
01 Nov 2021 - 15:44 John Connor ns
01 Nov 2021 - 15:44 Baby Driver double = ban
01 Nov 2021 - 15:44 Dreadlord woo
01 Nov 2021 - 15:44 Dreadlord woo
01 Nov 2021 - 15:44 Baby Driver hs
01 Nov 2021 - 15:44 Dreadlord woo
01 Nov 2021 - 15:44 [ZG] Harly no Ruble you are nice
01 Nov 2021 - 15:43 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat Harly, please think twice..
01 Nov 2021 - 15:43 exp cool
01 Nov 2021 - 15:43 exp players dont want play with strong opponent
01 Nov 2021 - 15:43 Ruble i get nban too?
01 Nov 2021 - 15:43 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat haha
01 Nov 2021 - 15:43 Ruble wait if i stop say hello
01 Nov 2021 - 15:43 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat pffffffffffffffff
01 Nov 2021 - 15:43 [ZG] Harly ...
01 Nov 2021 - 15:43 exp skill = ban
01 Nov 2021 - 15:43 exp ok, now understand
01 Nov 2021 - 15:43 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat Harly, bad behavior where? I was playing with him and was normal
01 Nov 2021 - 15:43 [ZG] Timmy Taube you were banned with my knowledge because many players left when you were there-and you didnt say hello or anything else-
01 Nov 2021 - 15:42 [ZG] Harly i have now explained it 5 times and so did timmy ... then translated it for you with google ...
01 Nov 2021 - 15:42 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat wtf is happening? haha
01 Nov 2021 - 15:42 Baby Driver becous
01 Nov 2021 - 15:42 Ruble hihi
01 Nov 2021 - 15:42 Ruble why Timmy not banned
01 Nov 2021 - 15:42 exp few servers, almost nowhere to play, and here they are banned just like that
01 Nov 2021 - 15:42 Baby Driver why did u ban him really
01 Nov 2021 - 15:42 exp нwell, then why are other admins banning players just like that, for a skill?
01 Nov 2021 - 15:41 [ZG] Timmy Taube i have no problem with it really
01 Nov 2021 - 15:41 exp or give text about it, when ban popup
01 Nov 2021 - 15:41 Baby Driver np
01 Nov 2021 - 15:41 Baby Driver coin
01 Nov 2021 - 15:41 John Connor sry
01 Nov 2021 - 15:41 exp if you don't want to play with strong players, say so
01 Nov 2021 - 15:41 Ruble noo
01 Nov 2021 - 15:41 Ruble yes
01 Nov 2021 - 15:40 Ruble aa
01 Nov 2021 - 15:40 exp so who it was?
01 Nov 2021 - 15:40 Baby Driver np
01 Nov 2021 - 15:40 Ruble hihi
01 Nov 2021 - 15:40 Ruble ty
01 Nov 2021 - 15:40 [ZG] Timmy Taube i didnt ban you
01 Nov 2021 - 15:40 exp someone complained about me and you banned me?
01 Nov 2021 - 15:40 [ZG] Timmy Taube sry exp i dont know the circumstances -i have just heard it
01 Nov 2021 - 15:40 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat ah
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat no ban
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat phew
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 Baby Driver but exp think that way
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 Baby Driver it is )))
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat tell me that is a joke
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 exp what i did?
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 Baby Driver haha ha
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 exp timmy, what behavior?
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 Baby Driver too good
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 Bboby haha
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 Baby Driver becouse he is good player to play
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 Baby Driver yes they banned exp
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 Bboby NEIN!
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat yes
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 [ZG] Timmy Taube hi
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 Baby Driver boria
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 [ZG] Harly hii
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 [ZG] Harly yhii
01 Nov 2021 - 15:39 John Connor hi
01 Nov 2021 - 15:38 [ZG] Harly Spinner
01 Nov 2021 - 15:38 [ZG] Harly warum übersetzt der Trottel das dann nicht
01 Nov 2021 - 15:38 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat you are banning exp?
01 Nov 2021 - 15:38 Baby Driver ok
01 Nov 2021 - 15:38 Bboby stop
01 Nov 2021 - 15:38 [ZGWEB] Boria Blyat wait wtf
01 Nov 2021 - 15:38 exp SPEC
01 Nov 2021 - 15:38 exp what kind of behavior, I don't understand, I didn't even say anything
01 Nov 2021 - 15:38 Ruble Bboby
01 Nov 2021 - 15:38 Ruble voteban
01 Nov 2021 - 15:38 Baby Driver win
01 Nov 2021 - 15:38 Baby Driver i am 1.
01 Nov 2021 - 15:38 Baby Driver pls dont ban me
01 Nov 2021 - 15:37 [ZG] Timmy Taube exp you were banned because of your bad behaviour
01 Nov 2021 - 15:37 Bboby rtv
01 Nov 2021 - 15:37 [ZG] Harly that is not primarily the reason ... you have no demeanor
01 Nov 2021 - 15:37 exp want*
01 Nov 2021 - 15:37 exp u wnat fell that u a king of the server here, or what?
01 Nov 2021 - 15:37 Baby Driver ik
01 Nov 2021 - 15:37 Bboby gay
01 Nov 2021 - 15:37 exp its not good, dead game, and ban good players
01 Nov 2021 - 15:37 [ZG] Harly hehe
01 Nov 2021 - 15:37 Ruble ohno
01 Nov 2021 - 15:37 Ruble hihi
01 Nov 2021 - 15:37 Ruble why not ban me
01 Nov 2021 - 15:37 Ruble ok
01 Nov 2021 - 15:37 [ZG] Harly erklär du ihm mal Timmy was ich meine. Ich kann nicht so gut Englisch...
01 Nov 2021 - 15:36 [ZG] Timmy Taube
01 Nov 2021 - 15:36 Ruble haha
01 Nov 2021 - 15:36 Baby Driver you are too good becouse it ban
01 Nov 2021 - 15:36 exp so skill = ban, right?
01 Nov 2021 - 15:36 Baby Driver exp
01 Nov 2021 - 15:36 Baby Driver yes
01 Nov 2021 - 15:36 exp or what?
01 Nov 2021 - 15:36 Baby Driver haha
01 Nov 2021 - 15:36 exp why ban, bcz i have good kills?
01 Nov 2021 - 15:36 [ZG] Timmy Taube hehe
01 Nov 2021 - 15:36 Baby Driver hehe
01 Nov 2021 - 15:36 exp what? can u use simple words please, what reason, i cant understand
01 Nov 2021 - 15:36 Baby Driver what
01 Nov 2021 - 15:35 [ZG] Harly Sometimes you say hello to an ns . But you don't have to come here just to slaughter
01 Nov 2021 - 15:35 [ZG] Harly because of bad behavior. one can of course be good. But simply bas hing everyone away and shut up is not possible either.
01 Nov 2021 - 15:35 [ZG] Timmy Taube sry i dont know why exp
01 Nov 2021 - 15:35 Baby Driver yik
01 Nov 2021 - 15:35 Bboby
01 Nov 2021 - 15:34 exp so, why ban?
01 Nov 2021 - 15:34 exp VOL0
01 Nov 2021 - 15:34 exp skillban?
01 Nov 2021 - 15:34 Bboby picka
01 Nov 2021 - 15:34 Bboby picak
01 Nov 2021 - 15:34 exp cool
01 Nov 2021 - 15:34 exp ban without reason?
01 Nov 2021 - 15:34 [ZG] Timmy Taube hey harly
01 Nov 2021 - 15:34 exp SPEC
01 Nov 2021 - 15:34 [ZG] Timmy Taube
01 Nov 2021 - 15:34 [ZG] Harly because of bad behavior

I was wrong, and so I changed my message.

Some players can be quite toxic if triggered, but could actually be very nice persons, and we also owe it to ourselves to give them a chance.

I decided to friend exp, and ask him what was going on. I listen to how he felt. (leaving ALL misunderstandings aside) - he was sad and did not understand what had happened.
However, after chatting with exp he understood our view and connected and left with a smile

Harly next time I think it is necessary that we ask such a player to slow down for a moment, before taking any action at all.
He was kicked for 30 minutes. That might have been a bit harsh, or a reaction which I can understand, because seen from an admin point of view the attitude was very VG ish.
But I think from now on we must be more careful

Thanks