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We kindly asked to not abuse postal on newcomers. AKA 20 vs 0, resulting in players quitting without getting a chance to get to know the server.
Our multiple requests were ignored and this is our last request.

Please avoid doing this again.

Thank you

Asked him to stopped trolling the weaker players but he carry's on and threating me and I ask him what he means by that not sure why we have players like this on the server.

Quote blo0d : I'm going to screw you up so much

What do you mean by this statement ?

zen wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:10 pm Asked him to stopped trolling the weaker players but he carry's on and threating me and I ask him what he means by that not sure why we have players like this on the server.

Quote blo0d : I'm going to screw you up so much

What do you mean by this statement ?

Omg thats out of the hands already, that's not just mean, but recklessly stupid and provocative behaviour. Making it just for fun or teasing for so long many people is not acceptable, rude and even childish. I can understand jokes, while we call someone noob or like that with positive vibes and laughter, for fun and all that. (We know and can feel these vibes, when its a real joke) But its obvious that Blood doesnt care about others feelings or emotions, he's doing it on purpose just for his own amusement. So as i can see now, his words are making others feel offensive. Im against such actions coming from his side for so long. I would even call this a passive aggression. That's my point of view on this situation.


Also i cant even say whats on his mind and what are his thoughts, reasons for doing this

My opinion here is: do not engage.
In regards to the server, the new player amount is non-existent. Bit of an issue.
We need admins and regulars to invite to groups, and befriend new players. It is not enough to come in when one feels like playing the leave right after.

I'm growing sick and tired of bl00d language to some admins.
I think apologies there are in order. The extreme language used was really an eye opener! Not in a good way.

I don't know if you've noticed, but these days I mostly don't speak or write on the ZG server... I just play! I was wondering what I was doing wrong
But it immediately became a topic. If you look back at the server log, you can see that Zen is constantly talking, and there are more problems with his style, but obviously he is paid by admin, so it is not a topic here, what style he communicates in... Obviously it is not a topic, since he is a admin... No one will talk about it, or open a separate forum topic for it... or warn, because unfortunately the world works like that. Pay, you get a right to abuse...

let's look at two examples:

Zen: "camper"
My answer is, unfortunately no, but everyone who watches me in spectate mode knows this, but despite this, Zen kicked me or banned me several times. But this must be normal according to you... Obviously it is, since it is an admin...

Zen: "troll"
Why, when I don't really speak up, only when Zen insults me... It's pathetic... but really... But he's obviously compensating, that's why he does it. Understandable...

Zen: "respawn kill"
Yes, I do that, but I'm not allowed to? or is it just me, really? I have to laugh With that much power you can kick everyone out Zen, even yourself... You're funny...

"Bad English"
Unfortunately, yes, my English is not that good, so if you were definitely looking for a reason for a permanent ban, then this could be a good reason, so I would rather vote for this, and then at least it's not a bullshit reason...

It's interesting how much you can come up with reasons to permanently ban...

I'll just say one thing, believe it or not, I won't cry if this happens, in fact, I'll continue to live my life in reality and spend more time with my family and my 5-year-old daughter (though my wife always freaks out when I play at night ) no I'm wasting my time on this. I don't understand, it's not actually a punishment... So guys, just be brave, you don't have to try to come up with reasons or spend even more time on this...

Zen, I wish you a dick extension by the year 2024, because it would at least compensate for your feeling of minority and you would be able to assert yourself in virtual reality Now this was really trolling, so I gave you another reason for the permanent ban, go ahead and do it Thank you everyone it was a pleasure!!!!

I didn't want to write, but the whole picture "Big picture" is so complete
And my alias is blo0d, not bl00d... learn it now... not heavy....

To Bubbles: Please post my comment because:
The truth also includes my comment.

And it will include trolling for the permanent ban

Just to make your life easier

Firstly apologies for getting your nickname wrong. I have rectified this.
Speaking of which, I was hoping for apologies so that we can all move on, but I get a massive rant which throws more fire into the flame. That's unfortunate, but I will do my best to anwser.

• 1 These bans were kicks 30 minutes. How many where there?

• 2 No one pays to become admin. Zen has been a patron of the server in the later years, sure, and he has brought more to the server than you can imagine. In fact many of the map he has ported and made for ZG.

• 3 I do not praise Zen's behaviour towards you nor do I praise yours towards him. Not everyone can agree but this is one community, and we have to learn to respect one another. I think that you both should try and stay civilized, perhaps keep the communication to a minimum? If your decision is to ignore I would agree with that 100% but unfortunately the logs suggest otherwise. And I can say the same for Zen.

• 4 Spawn kills are allowd, but so is common sense. One cannot stand in front of a spawn point all map and shoot. That is called annoying and point farming. It isn't what you do, is it?

• 5 Thank you for trying to make my life easier but I think we are a little past that by now.
  I have been hoping for this to change and I have to say, it did quiet down for a bit, the other day I noticed that you were taking care of new players which is nice. But then now I read this stuff and the logs and facepalm.

• 6 We have had so much bs in the past year with ZG that now we really want peace and quiet. Not division. Please.

1. it doesn't matter when, how many times, several times it happened, I didn't note it down, but I entered the last time it happened in the steam ZG group chat, look at the time, but this wasn't the first time it happened. He writes "camper" and then "votekick" or slaps me and kicks me out, but somehow this interestingly escapes your attention. Although it is obvious that he invents a bullshit reason in response, But as I read on the forum, not only has this happened to me, but Edward Ligma has also experienced this, And then on the forum you basically promised that you would pay attention to him and that this would not happen again... Well, it took until now , but obviously there won't be any consequences now, right? In the same way, Zen still has admin rights, which he can abuse, and he does... because he's done it many times... he comes up with something, say "camper" and then slaps, kicks, he did his job well... but that's probably normal for you

2. I wouldn't give admin rights to someone who isn't mature enough to use it, because he might have done a couple of good things, maps, etc., but his behavior is demoralizing and he's abusing admin rights, because he's clearly using it for compensation

3. Bubbles, I didn't say anything to him, I can look back at the chat log at any time, you can see that he is provoking, but you don't need to look back at the log much, he also entered a couple of "Dick" yesterday, but of course he is allowed, isn't he? I'm a troll if I talk back... Right... I don't think it's fair. But it might be for you... I'll write it down again, I don't usually comment, only when it provokes, if it does, nobody should be surprised if I don't tolerate it. But you can swallow it, I won't...

4. I use respawn kill, like everyone else, because rationally, if I go past a respawn point, I'm not happy if someone respawns right there and shoots me in the back, but I don't think I'm alone in this, or am I? Is no one watching? That's not how I noticed it…. But I think that not only the respawn kill is an interesting issue, but we could also discuss the use of mines for the respawn point, which I have seen is also common among admins, why is this not a topic? Why is it only the problem or theme that everyone else uses, eg respawn kill, hm? I could start talking about such things, but I'm not hysterical, I'm just playing.

5. I pay attention to new players, but only until I see that the new player is actually a professional or a more experienced player... AND I would be happy if we could talk about other players, because you can tease anyone, "camper", "respawn killer", but before that, everyone should look at themselves, because if you look at it with these glasses, I think you can kick everyone off the server. naturally also ZEN.... I trust that this is not a question for you either, but it is clear... Because it is for me!

6, first you should tidy up the cavity of his brain, because there is a problem there. I've been in silent mode for a while now.
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Look this is not my battle and it is unfair to drag me in the middle of it with unpleasent comments like:
"but somehow this interestingly escapes your attention"
"but that's probably normal for you"

But to answer you nontheless, "no it is not normal for me" and no, nothing escaped my attention, that is why I am taking the time to answer and trying to help resplve the issue. Do you see that?

And I am sorry to tell you but perhaps Zen is also not appreciating things like "because he's clearly using it for compensation" or "tidy up the cavity of his brain"?

I see he punished 3 times, cannot tell about kick 30 min can you remember?

2024-01-05 18:32:14 BIRD[ZG] Zen BIRDIFYED blo0d
2023-12-19 17:20:12 BIRDMerry Xmas BIRDIFYED blo0d
2023-12-07 20:51:20 MEGA SLAP[ZG] ẔēŊ MEGA SLAPPED blo0d
2022-10-27 19:11:33 PHOENIX[ZG] Harly PHOENIXED blo0d
2022-10-27 19:08:51 FROZE[ZG] Harly FROZE blo0d
2022-08-25 16:57:56 SPANK[ZG] Baby ✔ SPANKED blo0d
2022-06-24 21:11:41 BIRD[ZG] Mr Nick (The Laughing Duck BIRDIFYED blo0d

In regards to respawn kill then that sounds to me like what we all do.

Mines at respawn could Absolutely also be a topic which you are welcome to start!
But before you do let me inform you that mines at respawn point cannot kill a player, because there is a 0.5 second spawn protection. Same for an orb if it passes on you at spawn.
Unless you are talking at a mine Near a spawn point, then it can kill you.

When I say camper I always mean it for teasing. I cannot speak for others though.

That said, I would like to ask boh of you to find a better way to resolve the problems.
I would like to ask you to be more friendly and less sarcastic to others (like you did with me for unknown reasons above!)

And finally, I would like to ask you what you would suggest as a resolution to this problem between you and Zen.
From my side I would like to ask ZEN once more to go easy on the kicks bans and words, looks like Blo0d has made an effort to remain calm on his side maybe meet him in the middle?
Otherwise, what would you like to see happen?

Ok, then I'm sorry, I'll correct it, as soon as you start from the respawn point, after 0.5 seconds a mine will follow, surely no one will go with it... ) Or even better when I often find myself facing a mine even after teleporting, is it better now? I think this is more of a problem than shooting at a respawn point, I should add that I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE who does this, but based on these, you make it seem like ONLY I do this.... this makes me smile, but I won't believe it
But if a mine can be placed after 0.5 seconds, then based on these, I can also place the person around the respawn point, where he is born at the respawn point...
And one more thing, if I start from what you write, then I don't respawn kill you either, since it was 0.5 seconds later and it has already left the respawn point. So what are we actually talking about then?

I don't understand, why are you only telling me this? When a lot of people do this, why is it allowed? If I don't do this, those who are born next to me will kill me... I seriously don't understand all this anymore. But if you allow me, please don't just tell me, tell everyone, even ZEN, thank you in advance...

I see your effort, but I rather notice that you are protecting and slightly distorting reality. They weren't just punishments, but after that came the kick, or a kick that made it impossible for me to go back to the server. He kicked me out several times, so please look into this (server logs) as well and read what he wrote before... "camper" respawn kill, dick, etc... and also look at who initiated it and what texts he wrote. thanks…


Cause and effect:
Cause and effect, if Zen doesn't start barking at me, it won't happen. I'd start at the root of the problem, Zen don't "bark in" and come up with bullshit reasons to kick out or slap me, and then I won't be trolling. I do not tolerate this behavior

I would be happy if the admins paid attention not only to the cause, but also to what triggered the event, because that way you get a complete picture, and don't just listen to the side that is hysterical about something.

Solution:
I think that the solution to the problem, which he has abused several times, is that a player who abuses his rights does not need an admin, I would withdraw that, since he has already played it several times, and he did this not only to me. The Other stays quiet and accepts when he loose the game, that's life. And then I won't troll, The formula is that simple.