New Map Cycle

[Boria Blyat]

Hello everyone,

I'm making this post to give a suggestion about the map cycle.
In my opinion, exist some few maps in map cycle that are worth to play. I'm not only talking about the snow maps, but all the maps in general.
One thing is clear, quantity isnt better than quality.

I already saw some arguments to have those maps in cycle:

1. Its a server so its crucial to have a lot of maps so players would always have a new fresh gameplay
A: Well, that is true but we need to know which maps are we talking about. Take as example CSGO, players play a lot the map de_dust2 because they want. The map isnt what give them a fresh experience, but it is the players they are fighting with.

2. We already have a system of rating maps and we only select maps that are well rated.
A: Sometimes they are well rated, but sometimes no. Remember that voting gives them RPG and health, so they can rate not because they want to rate the map but yes to obtain the reward as fast as possible, therefore isnt a reliable system.


Other thing that I already observed is about the new players. Sometimes they leave because of a "wave of rtv" and one thing that disappoints me is when server has a lot of players and the new players need to play some shitty maps that are in large cycle, which sometimes have as result a "wave of rtv" again.

So I'm here so we can have a true discussion about this.
Feel free to share your opinion below.

I'm creating a poll so we can see what players want: They want few good maps or a lot of maps (independent of the quality).

ZG MATCH has several good maps that could be in cycle. Other suggestion is from now on, the maps only would be in cycle with a serious rating.
Remember also, the maps are a fundamental part of the gameplay, not just an extra, so please take this serious and understand my point. The maps dont need to be beautiful, they need to be a great place to a good gameplay emerge.

There is the link for the poll
https://forms.gle/gA49jzZUL9L3N38n8
https://forms.gle/gA49jzZUL9L3N38n8

[SΛLO POWEЯ]

votemap with 3 random map is good thing when one minute left, or when rtv. If would be nice if list with suggested maps displays on screen as table or simple text and voting will realize via chat 1, 2, 3, if it possible

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[Boria Blyat]

Well, I think ZG will change his map cycle system.
And Salo's idea is awesome, but having 3 bad maps to choose is bullshit

[[ZG] abracadabra]

https://www.strawpoll.me/45915927

[[ZG] BubblesDevere]

No system is reliable.
That is why you have to take into account the false positives, which we do do do

[[ZG] BubblesDevere]

votemap with 3 random map is good thing when one minute left, or when rtv. If would be nice if list with suggested maps displays on screen as table or simple text and voting will realize via chat 1, 2, 3, if it possible 3AD906C7-D01E-4BC7-9403-FFAA67E2DB5B.jpeg

SALO - yes absolutely, but how did you get that menu, I sincerely thought it was dead with steam update!
I did try to make use of this many many times, but never could revive it! Is it now back in the engine ??

[[ZG] BubblesDevere]

Clearly this is what we want so ok, we will tighten things mapwise.
I have an idea..... how about making the server play only STOCK maps when it is empty or 1 person ? that way , ppl would see this on the list and potentially join
I am not CERTAIN how I would include this in the already very extensive system, but I could look into it.

[MNTLD]

Woo! Nice idea, Salo. I also think to bring in more punters we need to use stock maps more like lockdown. Also, hide and seek would be a fun addition. Someone is the seeker, and has a black screen for about 30 seconds whilst others hide in minime. Infintate jet and minime for this mod would be great. The seeker then has a certain amount of time to find the people to gain points. Maybe even postal points as it's hard finding minime people. lol

[MNTLD]

MATAR is a nice map that brings in the punters, as well as all the stock maps. I agree, that the stock maps should be used way more than they should to bring in the people. Most are comfortable with one server and one map, so when they see it they join. Lock down is a good one as well as the one that's outside (can't remember what it is).

[SΛLO POWEЯ]

votemap with 3 random map is good thing when one minute left, or when rtv. If would be nice if list with suggested maps displays on screen as table or simple text and voting will realize via chat 1, 2, 3, if it possible 3AD906C7-D01E-4BC7-9403-FFAA67E2DB5B.jpeg

SALO - yes absolutely, but how did you get that menu, I sincerely thought it was dead with steam update!
I did try to make use of this many many times, but never could revive it! Is it now back in the engine ??

It's BMS vote system, realized via weapon slots 1,2,3...i think it's proprietary thing. Can it be displayed as a text list, as current rank +- messages? Still works legacy menu like current admin menu, but its very awkward.